Podcast

Episode 7

Episode 7

46 min · November 25, 2025

The Hidden Cost of Bad AI Implementation

Kazik Pietka

Kazik Pietka

Managing Partner, Heveli

The conversation

Milan Savov talks with Kazik Pietka, Managing Partner at Heveli and the co-founder who helped scale Surfer to $15M ARR bootstrapped, about the hidden costs of bad AI adoption. Kazik reflects on leading his first company at 25 and why founders often struggle when a team reaches 70 to 100 people, as departments drift and processes break. He describes the 'AI illusion', where companies rush to adopt AI without preparing their data and processes, which magnifies existing problems and costs more than it saves.

Successful companies treat AI as infrastructure, validate processes first and use it to support teams. Scaling, he says, depends on delegation, alignment and clarity more than on tools.

What came up

00:00

Introduction

01:34

Who is Kazik Pietka

02:02

The reality of leading your first company at 25

03:16

The mistakes founders make when promoting managers

05:32

Why delegating is painful but necessary

07:14

The mindset shift required to scale past 1M ARR

12:56

Why founders feel lost when the company hits 70–100 people

18:21

How real AI integrations are done inside SaaS

21:26

Why AI breaks when companies lack proper data

22:50

The real cost of bad AI implementation

28:00

What leaders must understand about AI readiness

38:32

Kazik’s final advice for SaaS leaders

About the guest

Kazik Pietka

Kazik Pietka

Managing Partner and co-founder at Heveli, and the co-founder who helped scale Surfer to $15M ARR bootstrapped. He works with B2B SaaS leadership teams on operations and AI.

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