Podcast

Episode 25

Episode 25

41 min · August 16, 2026

Why Modern SaaS Marketing No Longer Follows the Rules

Sara Archer

Sara Archer

Chief Revenue Officer, ChartMogul

The conversation

Milan Savov talks with Sara Archer, Chief Revenue Officer at ChartMogul, about making good growth decisions when buyer journeys can no longer be tracked cleanly. Sara explains that perfect attribution no longer exists, as buyers discover companies through podcasts, LinkedIn, communities, AI tools and word of mouth, so teams should act on good-enough data instead of waiting for certainty. She stresses that brand matters more when not everything can be measured, and that some channels create demand while others only capture it.

The conversation covers hypothesis-driven experimentation, including an outbound test at ChartMogul, and how AI speeds up execution without replacing strategy and customer insight. The strongest revenue teams, she says, will be the ones that learn fastest.

What came up

00:00

Introduction to Sara Archer

02:18

From customer success to CRO

06:54

Why perfect attribution doesn't exist

10:42

How demand generation has changed

15:36

Measuring brand beyond dashboards

20:11

AI's impact on SaaS marketing

25:08

The outbound experiment that changed everything

31:27

Running better growth experiments

36:40

Building learning loops across marketing

About the guest

Sara Archer

Sara Archer

Chief Revenue Officer at ChartMogul, where she leads sales, marketing, customer success, account management and revenue operations.

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